On this episode, Amanda Head talks with Michael Sobolik to break down the real stakes behind the U.S.–China relationship, and why it matters more than ever for America’s future.
From TikTok and data security to energy independence and global trade, Sobolik unpacks how China maintains leverage on the world stage, including through vast oil reserves and diversified energy sources. He raises serious concerns about Beijing’s reliability on key issues like fentanyl enforcement, citing a recent White House report that casts doubt on China’s commitments.
The conversation dives into the growing push to reshore pharmaceutical manufacturing, highlighting the national security risks of relying on China for critical medical supply chains. On TikTok, Sobolik argues the current deal falls short, warning that ties to ByteDance still pose unresolved concerns.
They also explore Taiwan’s defense spending and why its security is directly tied to U.S. strategic interests.
Amanda also brings a personal, on-the-ground perspective, recounting her experience at the White House Correspondents’ Association Dinner when a gunman attempted to breach security. The moment underscores the very real and immediate nature of national security threats, connecting global instability to risks felt at home.
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Amanda Head
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Michael Sobolik
Senior Fellow in Foreign Policy, The Hudson Institute
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